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Xbox 360 Blue - Microsoft's Next Suggested Move

Tuesday February 26, 2008

Now that Microsoft has officially backed out of the HD DVD market, discontinuing their Xbox 360 HD DVD player, there needs to be a next step. While the jury is still 'officially' out on the HD DVD vs. Blu Ray war, its fairly apparent that the Blu Ray technology is going to become the next standard and HD DVD is the new beta max. So, here is what Microsoft needs to do.

Introduce the Xbox 360 Blue, along with a buy back program supported by Microsoft through major retail chains, to help people ease the pain on the wallet when they upgrade. But there are a few things I suggest they keep in mind, and implement in this newest Xbox 360. Along with the standard features of an Xbox 360 Elite, the new Xbox 360 Blue should have, at a minimum, these additional features:

  • Built in Blu Ray DVD player
  • Built in wireless connectivity that supports the N standard
  • Built in support for Bluetooth headset connections for Xbox Live communications

Of course, these are just my suggestions. The buy back program needs to be there as an incentive to choose the Xbox 360 over the PlayStation 3, because as is, even though the current game line-up for the PS3 is limited, it is an enticing piece of hardware because of its range of capabilities and built-in support. So, what do you think? Feel free to post a comment.

Comments

February 26, 2008 at 3:54 pm
(1) JohnnyB says:

I, personally, think that is the most retarded thing i have ever heard. I own a PS3 and and 360, and i think the Xbox 360 is better as it is. My Ps3 is basically my glorified DVD player as i only own one game and uses it only to play Blu-Ray Discs. My Xbox 360 basically does what i bought it to do. Play Kick Ass Games, and does it amazingly well.

February 26, 2008 at 4:37 pm
(2) Rich Reed says:

I think it makes perfect sense. If people are saying they only are buying a PS3 for a blue-ray player than why not let MS do this right? They should have done it this way before. I also really want to use a blue tooth headset after all it is 2008. Nice write up and good ideas.

February 26, 2008 at 4:39 pm
(3) vgstrategies says:

I have all of the consoles, and I appreciate the comment. The Xbox 360 has better games, and it has a much better online community, but my point here is that Microsoft should make an effort to release a version of their Xbox 360 that does not require tons of add-ons to be a complete device that still has the current and future standards within it. (think of the additional wireless adapter, the additional wireless headset if you want it, and the additional high definition player)

In order for the Xbox 360 to continue to be sought after and seen as a superior product over the PS3 I think they should do something. I don’t want a console with a handful of accessories, I want it built in. But then again, it is just my opinion.

February 26, 2008 at 4:48 pm
(4) gdawg says:

Microsoft did this right…waited to see which Hi-Def format war would win. Since I have yet to buy a Blu-Ray player, or the HD DVD add-on for my Xbox360, I am able to now invest in either Blu-Ray player, a PS3 or the next itteration of Xbox 360 “Blue” ray they come out with. Imagine if Microsoft threw a built-in HD DVD player in their units way back! You’d have to upgrade to their next 360! At least now, *my opinion*, I can choose either Xbox’s next total pkg unit or add a PS3 to my collection.

February 26, 2008 at 4:54 pm
(5) D.Vader says:

Just buy a PS3. Why pussy foot around with a “me-too” system when you can have the real deal. 2008 will be a breakout year for PS3.

You get the Blu-Ray, WiFi, BlueTooth, ALL BUILT IN!

February 26, 2008 at 5:07 pm
(6) whatev says:

You’re stupid … If the 360 had a built in Blu-Ray player, the 360 games wouldn’t play. It would have to be an add on (just like the HD-DVD drive)

And has the IEEE even put it’s stamp of approval on N band wireless yet? ‘Cause if not N band is about as usefull as a man-nipple.

February 26, 2008 at 5:09 pm
(7) kadams says:

Hmn – a buyback program maybe is too much … what i would like to see (and this is not really related to the demise of HDDVD) is a “hifi” version of the x360. An x360 is a dvd-like package, with bluray built in and professional audio/video options! (oh – and silent!).

February 26, 2008 at 5:36 pm
(8) Zephyr says:

This seems like a big turnaround for the HD-Blu war. Blu-ray wins, but I wonder how this will affect the Xbox 360 and its players in general. The problem for us 360 owners is our warranty. I got my Elite in July of 2007, and if they start rolling out major format upgrades and stuff, peple like me will be screwed…we won’t be able to exchange an RRoD’d console for an upgraded one. I hope Blu-ray doesn’t become a necessity, but if it does, 360 owners should be entitled to free upgrades or at least lower prices.

February 26, 2008 at 7:02 pm
(9) vgstrategies says:

OK, perhaps the term ‘buy back’ is a bit much, but there should be a monetary incentive for current 360 owners was my point.

Oh, and while we’re on the topic let me say one more thing I’d really love to see, but don’t expect…. the Xbox 360 to use a standard laptop hard drive like the PS3 does, why does it have to be proprietary?

February 26, 2008 at 7:22 pm
(10) Jimi says:

I don’t want those from my console, I just want good games. That is why I have an Xbox 360: it has the best games.

February 26, 2008 at 9:32 pm
(11) Fenrir says:

This is one of the reasons of why the 360 will lose this generation of console wars, again. Those of us who understand technology and follow it developments could see the difference between Blu-Ray and HD DVD from the off. Yes there is probable too much space on blu-ray disc for the film and all the special features alone in its current state, but when you up it to HD quailty it fills the HD DVD that same quailty doesnt come close to filling a Blu-Ray, you get much higher quailty image, sound exerything infact. Yes at the moment the 360 is the leader in the market, but when you think that in total it roughly had a 2 year relese head start on the market and is already paying for it. Almost all the first and second productions of 360 had to be recalled due to the red ring of death, resulting from colling faliures. This whole idea of a buy back system for the new 360 blue will be a huge hole for money from microsoft that is not finacilaly viable for them and i do not belive they will over this service when push comes to shove. This sounds to me like Microsft atempting to keep its customers on board for the time being to stop them switching sides before they’ve milked them for as much moeny as they can. This year belongs to that of the PS3 it planned ahead for this and thus is already ahead of the Next-gen entertainment system.

February 26, 2008 at 9:55 pm
(12) Timothy Tripp says:

Ok first of all, a BluRay drive would in fact play 360 games just like a BluRay drive can play any DVD.

I don’t think Microsoft should jump on the BluRay bandwagon, but should instead keep pushing downloadable HD video. I have a PS3 and the quality of a BluRay disk is excellent, but it’s NOT VISUALLY BETTER than HD video from XBox Live Video Marketplace.

There are only three problems with the DL video: the biggest is that I can’t BUY movies off XBox Live Video Marketplace, I can only rent them. I can buy TV shows, but I can’t buy movies. Why? I would pay $20 for ownership of a HD movie, and that would undersell BluRay with absolutely zero inventory and production costs.

The second problem is that DLV does not include closed captioning. For some odd reason my wife has difficulty understanding people who speak with strong accents so we generally turn captioning on, but we can’t with DL video. Short sighted and they need to fix this.

The last problem with DLV is that you don’t get all the extras like director’s commentaries, “the making of” etc. which they could easily give you. Easily fixable by bundling the smaller videos along with the main video in a single purchase.

If they address these three issues, I would never buy another BluRay disk. I would love to be watching Beowulf tonight for example, but I won’t buy the DVD because it’s not HiDef, I won’t buy the HD-DVD because it’s a dead format, I can’t buy the BluRay because it’s not available yet, and I can’t buy the HD version on XBox Live because you can’t buy movies on XBox Live. Most likely I’ll buy the BluRay when it comes out, but ONLY because of the three reasons I listed – I would MUCH prefer to own it digitally and not have yet another disc to worry about.

February 26, 2008 at 11:36 pm
(13) parker says:

i think that the 360 is amazing, and Microsoft knows how to keep it simple by continuously expand what is important, which is the games. for aren’t they game consoles, not dvd players ??? to me if i want to play games that kick ass and win in graphics and are amazing, im going witht the 360. I mean the funny thing is, is that Microsoft is not finished with this product yet. They keep making it better and better. Regardless of blu ray and the wi fi and blu tooth, (though those are cool), i dont think that Sony has anything whatsoever on Microsoft. They are allowing you to create your own videogames come holiday season again in november when two of the most amazing games also come out in the next series. Im talkin about gears of war 2 and fable 2. These games will never be beaten. PS3 has the resistance games on the PS3, but there will never be anything as good as gears of war 2. and xbox live is next gen my friends. blu ray is all about expensive hardware and expensive discs, and xbox live is being turned into a built in everything. they are teaming up with netflix so that you have a huge variety of movies to download. Along with tv shows. The future is all about less things to buy, and that will be the key. Downloading, not blu ray. blu ray is no different in my opinion then dvd. i dont even care for HD-DVD. there is no difference, and unless you have HD tv, you cant enjoy the blu ray experience. so to me its a waste, and i think that the future will be won by microsoft only because they seem to playing there cards right with every aspect of the game. they are taking over Sony’s game franchises. So that means less games now, and less games in the future. Also microsoft is one of the richest and most powerful companies in the economy and it deals with software!!!!!! its going to kick ass with whatever it produces!!!! the new “Sync” thing for the cars, is amazing!!!, the new cheaper and better Zune players that allow you in holiday season 2008 to download xbox live community games from your 360!!! Microsoft is the future. I personally think that both blu ray and HD-DVD are both beta all over again. DVD’s are still selling, why?? because history is repeating itself. nobody cares about blu ray !!!! hehehehe. its so stupid. In order for the world to jump to something new from DVD, it would have to be a new product or service, that would be xbox live downloads. and no more of the pesky mailing back dvds, all by your 360 instead. heheheh. Microsoft is just taking it easy as of right now, for it has already seen its shinning years, but when the holiday season comes out you will see who truly rocks when you are able to develop your own games with a few clicks of some X’s. Microsoft will kick ass also when it has the option of a third console!!!! The PS3 is being compared to the second console of Microsoft!!!! this is only microsoft’s second console, and it already kicks ass!!!!! Sony do you really think you have any power what so ever when you are battling Microsoft??? Also Microsoft is currently working on the handheld xbox, and they are developing plans for the new xbox 720, just wikipedia it, and you will find that microsoft has already planned that the xbox 720 will have voice recognition, just like the new “Sync” for cars, built into it, where you will be able to tell it different commands. Sony does not develop what Microsoft can develop!!! Microsoft is a software program company!!!!!!!! They are this worlds future leaders in technology baby!!! Dont forget it!!! buy a 360!!!!! Imagine when Microsoft also wins yahoo and google, all of Microsofts media players (Zune, Xbox 360, Handheld xbox) will all be connected through Microsoft’s internet explorer version 8!!!! Microsoft is the future

February 27, 2008 at 11:37 am
(14) bob says:

@ Timothy:

Dont even start. XBL downloads are NOT VISUALLY SUPERIOR. give me a break man….are u really being serious? there is no way in hell its even close hahaha. And digital dwonloads are far from taking off. if a movie is like 30 gigs…itll take more than 90% of the world to download it in more than 4 days. come on, and yea there is no guarantee with all the retarded unstable windows computers that go crashing on everyone. Oh i bought a movie, waited for 10 days for it to download, and my comp crashed 4 days later….oh my whole collection is gone….now what? digital downloads have a future, no doubts there, but there is no way it will overthrow blu ray.

and @ parker…
shut up

February 27, 2008 at 11:39 am
(15) bob says:

damn i cant edit..

@timothy, i mean that it will not over throw blu ray for a while, it will eventualy when the whole world has reliable computers, and internet that can allow you to download movies in the same time it takes you to go and buy a disc.

February 28, 2008 at 12:37 am
(16) parker says:

does the truth hurt bob???
tell me everything you know about the PS3, “oh we have wi fi, six axis controllers, and blu ray” well we have amazing online service, Microsoft as our developer, more and better games that have sold way more then Sony could ever dream of, and Microsoft knows how to reinvent itself, and so does Nintendo, sony took a game console and turned it into a media player. they are losing all of there games to Microsofts 360 buddy, it doesnt take a high IQ when understanding that less games now, and less games in the future = DONT BUY THE PS3!!!! and i dont know anybody that has blu ray or has a PS3, so yep. Sony doesnt have any interesting games, there “Home” sucks compared to the 10 million on xbox live that allows you to download, and buddy ive downloaded movies and tv shows from the marketplace for i have an account, and its a matter of minutes not days to download and its not tangible, so i dont have to buy stupid ass blu ray discs at like 30 bucks!!! dude blu ray will be gone just like beta. :) what else do you have to say Bob?????? Sony doesnt tell you jack about the PS3, but what do you know, cause im a 360 fanboy, and this is only Microsofts second console baby!!!!! heheheheeh kiss that dunce.

P.S. oh and creating my own videogames on my 360, yeah that will kick ass, PS3 is definitely not worth it when compared to the 360.

February 28, 2008 at 2:25 pm
(17) Bob says:

You had an argument with the games. as of 2008….name more than one 360 exclusive thats worth playing. GOW2 will be kick ass thats for sure. knock knock. i have a 360 as well, and its not that i dont play it. The movies you download are A) not i 1080p, B)It doesnt have the sound or picture quality. pixels alone dont determine quality. C)downloading an HD quality movie that fits on a blu ray, with the sound etc is like 25 gigs n up…GOOD luck downloading that in a matter of hours.

They have sold more than sony could ever dream of:

PLAYSTATION 3 HAS SOLD MORE PIECES IN THEIR FIRST YEAR COMPARED TO THE XBOX. OHHH YEA AND it also beat the 360 in january. IN AMERICA AS WELL. Less games in the future eh? sure. 2008 has absolutely amazing PS3 exclusives coming out….like i said only good 360 exclusive is GOW2, and yes i agree its worth looking forward to.

You dont know anyone who has blu ray or a ps3:
A)You have to come out of ur bubble sometime buddy
B)Home SUCKS: HAVE U EVEN FREAKING TRIED IT? NO.

Physical Media VS Digital:
Ur HDD Screws up: ALL UR MOVIES ARE GONE
U break a disc: Oops, ok ill buy another disc.

YOU THINK DVD’s were CHEAP at first? NO.

Only microsofts second console…and the XBOX division has just started making money. sony has eventually made money on each console so cut the crap. Even ps3 is profitable, 1 year after launch unlike the 2 years for ur oh so precious 360.

Finally: Making ur own games. I gotta say, thats a kick ass idea. BUT ITS NOT GOING TO AFFECT PLAYSTATION.

Anything more…do you have anything to say?

March 1, 2008 at 1:51 am
(18) parker says:

dude microsoft has so much power hehheehehe. i cant even stoop to your level cause your so stupid hehhehehe. you make me laugh your like a little 4 year old with your PS3 hehheheehe. its hilarious, Sony has no future when they have no games planned for the future and they dont have games like halo series, gears of war 2, fable 2, alan wake, too human, ninja gaiden 2, dude give me a break sony is done playstation is done hhheheehe. Microsoft is going to come out with a portable xbox and when people are able to halo and gears of war 2, and fable 2, and alan wake, and ninja gaiden 2 portably!!! yeah that will be the end of playstation buddy, heheheh and microsoft is already developing the xbox 720. and just to let you know your little math is incorrect Microsoft sold 3.4 billion in sales in 2007, wii sold 2.3, and PS3 did not even make it to the billion mark hehhheehe. so yeah your little math is incorrect and also gears of war sold more copies than any other game and microsoft january 3rd got an award for selling the most games on any console. tell me friend, if the sony playstations were so amazing and came out first, why did microsoft break the records and also Sony copied the X button to turn on the console, and they copied microsoft in online gaming. and that was only on the xbox!!! heeheehe and that is my point that sony is steps behind the power of microsoft!!! hehehheeh. they are running out of inventions for the PS systems hehhehe because they have already done everything they can do buddy heheheh microsoft is creating the xbox 720 that you will be able to talk to!!! and the portable xbox that will allow people to portably play halo series, gears of war series, fable series, too human, alan wake, ninja gaiden, and to create your own video games!!!! dude how would that not affect playstation. dude you are so dumb heheheeh microsoft has so much money and power!!!! heheheheh and they sell back shares to there company employees for fun dude and then they buy them back heheheh, thats how much money and power microsoft has and once they take over google and yahoo basically all of the internet and computers, yeah they will have complete domination worldwide of all of computer and internet service which will allow them more power with there own creations like there xbox products and there new zune, which will be able to play 1000 community xbox live games hehehehe. dude your dumb.

March 1, 2008 at 4:50 am
(19) Bob says:

Ok man, now you are seriously spouting complete garbage. I think someone really has to pop your pointless little bubble. I have no idea how to reply to your comment. I guess i can address the issues again, ok here goes (they are in the order i found them):

1) List of upcoming PS3 games in 2008:
– Metal Gear Solid 4
– Gran Turismo 5 Prologue/Maybe 5
– Haze
– LittleBigPlanet
– Killzone 2
– Final Fantasy XIII (Most probably)
– Tekken 6
– Resistance 2 (Rise of man?)
– SOCOM: Confrontation
– Motorstorm 2 (Maybe)

These are just to name some exclusive games worth playing that have scope of coming out in 2008. WE ARE ONLY TALKING 2008 here.

OK, so much for games, now lets go to your unit sales numbers. I would like to point out that you numbers are HILARIOUSLY wrong. I mean, they are fascinatingly wrong. The 360 did not sell 3.4 BILLION consoles. Are you freaking retarded by any chance? According to you, half that world bought a 360, and a third of it bought the Wii. Are you insane? Dude, all three of them put together dont equal 3.4 Billion. Maybe the 360 sold more units in 2007, but its been out for a total of two years, and overall sales are around 17.(something) million. Playstation 3, with one year on the market has total sales of 10.5 million. Have you taken 3rd grade math? If you have then i will not have to explain myself further. The Wii has had overall sales of over 20.00 million, FYI, Wii is outselling the 360 u nut.

That takes care of your rather misinformed sales numbers.

Next up, The award.

Yes the award was well deserved. But it was not for what you think. Read about it again. If I’m right it got it for most games sold PER console, not most games ever sold on a console. Again I might be wrong, but I think the PS2 (TWO, in case you misread) has that honour.

Now, I want to address your comment about how Sony ’stole’ the PS button….Technically even the Wii did, that has a power button too. If you think that Mircosoft invents everything it markets, you are SEVERELY mistaken. In fact, MS hasnt invented ANYTHING. Windows? NO it was a complete rip-off of Macintosh, even to this day, how VISTA is modeled after Tiger, yea its true, and its done a PATHETIC job of it. That’s besides the point though. Fact is, that the only thing you could accuse Sony for copying was the motion, but my defence for that is that they needed SOMETHING in the controller given their pending lawsuit with Immersion.
Copied ONLINE GAMING: Online gaming was not on the xbox first, it was on the PC. So technically you could say that they stole online gaming from PC games.

Now the XBOX 720: I’ve read about it on Wiki, yes it will use voice. It also isnt due till at least 2010, the same time as Playstation 4, which by the way Sony has already announced, and I’m is already in development.

XBOX HANDHELD: WHERE DID YOU READ THIS? THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE OF ONE. SO PLEASE DONT EVEN INCLUDE IT IN YOUR (ridiculous) ARGUMENT.

Microsoft taking over Google: You quite obviously have no idea about how companies run, so I wont even start explaining why MS CANNOT take over Google.

NEW ZUNE THAT WILL PLAY XBOX COMMUNITY GAMES? WHAT IN THE WORLD ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? WHICH ‘NEW ZUNE’?

Now to end this: It is clear to me that you are the one who is dumb. You can’t backup any of the claims you have made, unlike me. You are by far the biggest fanboy i have ever met. If something doesnt go your way, you just say…oh who cares anyway? you have bogus facts, and you have absolutely no intelligence whatsoever. I have no idea why i am wasting my time replying to you, but i seem to enjoy it. I eagerly wait for your stupid replies because i need a laugh now and then. I’ll tell you what, why don’t you donate your brain to science? Let them experience first hand what it is like to be a DUMBASS in the true sense. If you want proof of all my facts, Tell me and ill include all the links in the next comment. Please, just go do something productive. Oh yea, btw 2008 is apparently going to be the year of the Playstation 3 according to MANY analysts. Have fun with the Psychologists while I play some PS3

March 1, 2008 at 4:51 am
(20) Bob says:

Ok man, now you are seriously spouting complete garbage. I think someone really has to pop your pointless little bubble. I have no idea how to reply to your comment. I guess i can address the issues again, ok here goes (they are in the order i found them):

1) List of upcoming PS3 games in 2008:
– Metal Gear Solid 4
– Gran Turismo 5 Prologue/Maybe 5
– Haze
– LittleBigPlanet
– Killzone 2
– Final Fantasy XIII (Most probably)
– Tekken 6
– Resistance 2 (Rise of man?)
– SOCOM: Confrontation
– Motorstorm 2 (Maybe)

These are just to name some exclusive games worth playing that have scope of coming out in 2008. WE ARE ONLY TALKING 2008 here.

OK, so much for games, now lets go to your unit sales numbers. I would like to point out that you numbers are HILARIOUSLY wrong. I mean, they are fascinatingly wrong. The 360 did not sell 3.4 BILLION consoles. Are you freaking retarded by any chance? According to you, half that world bought a 360, and a third of it bought the Wii. Are you insane? Dude, all three of them put together dont equal 3.4 Billion. Maybe the 360 sold more units in 2007, but its been out for a total of two years, and overall sales are around 17.(something) million. Playstation 3, with one year on the market has total sales of 10.5 million. Have you taken 3rd grade math? If you have then i will not have to explain myself further. The Wii has had overall sales of over 20.00 million, FYI, Wii is outselling the 360 u nut.

That takes care of your rather misinformed sales numbers.

Next up, The award.

Yes the award was well deserved. But it was not for what you think. Read about it again. If I’m right it got it for most games sold PER console, not most games ever sold on a console. Again I might be wrong, but I think the PS2 (TWO, in case you misread) has that honour.

Continued on next comment……>>

March 1, 2008 at 4:53 am
(21) Bob says:

Wow is something wrong> i cant seem to post :S maybe its the size

March 1, 2008 at 4:53 am
(22) Bob says:

k man, now you are seriously spouting complete garbage. I think someone really has to pop your pointless little bubble. I have no idea how to reply to your comment. I guess i can address the issues again, ok here goes (they are in the order i found them):

1) List of upcoming PS3 games in 2008:
– Metal Gear Solid 4
– Gran Turismo 5 Prologue/Maybe 5
– Haze
– LittleBigPlanet
– Killzone 2
– Final Fantasy XIII (Most probably)
– Tekken 6
– Resistance 2 (Rise of man?)
– SOCOM: Confrontation
– Motorstorm 2 (Maybe)

These are just to name some exclusive games worth playing that have scope of coming out in 2008. WE ARE ONLY TALKING 2008 here.

…continued on next comment…

March 1, 2008 at 4:56 am
(23) Bob says:

Ok man, now you are seriously spouting complete garbage. I think someone really has to pop your pointless little bubble. I have no idea how to reply to your comment. I guess i can address the issues again, ok here goes (they are in the order i found them):

1) List of upcoming PS3 games in 2008:
Metal Gear Solid 4, Gran Turismo 5 Prologue/Maybe 5, Haze, LittleBigPlanet, Killzone 2, Final Fantasy XIII (Most probably), Tekken 6, Resistance 2 (Rise of man?), SOCOM: Confrontation, Motorstorm 2 (Maybe),

These are just to name some exclusive games worth playing that have scope of coming out in 2008. WE ARE ONLY TALKING 2008 here.

…continued on next comment…

March 1, 2008 at 4:57 am
(24) Bob says:

OK, so much for games, now lets go to your unit sales numbers. I would like to point out that you numbers are HILARIOUSLY wrong. I mean, they are fascinatingly wrong. The 360 did not sell 3.4 BILLION consoles. Are you freaking retarded by any chance? According to you, half that world bought a 360, and a third of it bought the Wii. Are you insane? Dude, all three of them put together dont equal 3.4 Billion. Maybe the 360 sold more units in 2007, but its been out for a total of two years, and overall sales are around 17.(something) million. Playstation 3, with one year on the market has total sales of 10.5 million. Have you taken 3rd grade math? If you have then i will not have to explain myself further. The Wii has had overall sales of over 20.00 million, FYI, Wii is outselling the 360 u nut.

That takes care of your rather misinformed sales numbers.

Next up, The award.

Yes the award was well deserved. But it was not for what you think. Read about it again. If I’m right it got it for most games sold PER console, not most games ever sold on a console. Again I might be wrong, but I think the PS2 (TWO, in case you misread) has that honour.

…continued on next comment…

March 1, 2008 at 4:57 am
(25) Bob says:

Now, I want to address your comment about how Sony ’stole’ the PS button….Technically even the Wii did, that has a power button too. If you think that Mircosoft invents everything it markets, you are SEVERELY mistaken. In fact, MS hasnt invented ANYTHING. Windows? NO it was a complete rip-off of Macintosh, even to this day, how VISTA is modeled after Tiger, yea its true, and its done a PATHETIC job of it. That’s besides the point though. Fact is, that the only thing you could accuse Sony for copying was the motion, but my defence for that is that they needed SOMETHING in the controller given their pending lawsuit with Immersion.
Copied ONLINE GAMING: Online gaming was not on the xbox first, it was on the PC. So technically you could say that they stole online gaming from PC games.

Now the XBOX 720: I’ve read about it on Wiki, yes it will use voice. It also isnt due till at least 2010, the same time as Playstation 4, which by the way Sony has already announced, and I’m is already in development.

XBOX HANDHELD: WHERE DID YOU READ THIS? THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE OF ONE. SO PLEASE DONT EVEN INCLUDE IT IN YOUR (ridiculous) ARGUMENT.

Microsoft taking over Google: You quite obviously have no idea about how companies run, so I wont even start explaining why MS CANNOT take over Google.

NEW ZUNE THAT WILL PLAY XBOX COMMUNITY GAMES? WHAT IN THE WORLD ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? WHICH ‘NEW ZUNE’?

Now to end this: It is clear to me that you are the one who is dumb. You can’t backup any of the claims you have made, unlike me. You are by far the biggest fanboy i have ever met. If something doesnt go your way, you just say…oh who cares anyway? you have bogus facts, and you have absolutely no intelligence whatsoever. I have no idea why i am wasting my time replying to you, but i seem to enjoy it. I eagerly wait for your stupid replies because i need a laugh now and then. I’ll tell you what, why don’t you donate your brain to science? Let them experience first hand what it is like to be a DUMBASS in the true sense. If you want proof of all my facts, Tell me and ill include all the links in the next comment. Please, just go do something productive. Oh yea, btw 2008 is apparently going to be the year of the Playstation 3 according to MANY analysts. Have fun with the Psychologists while I play some PS3

March 1, 2008 at 9:57 pm
(26) parker says:

heheheheh. your hilarious. see sony rubs off on you, you just repeated what i said, how you are a waist of my time hehehehe. your stupid dude hehheehe. and microsoft created online gaming for consoles dumbshit. and the PS3 will do better yeah, and i know its good, im doubting the ps3, i know it will sell, but personally the 360 has the future wrapped up heheehe sony will never have amazing games like gears of war 2 and fable 2 hehehehe they are both coming in around fall this year, and 360 will once again rein as king ehhhee. bioshock for example is amazing and is not for the PS3, why?? cause its too complicated!!! hehehehe. and the same goes for ninja gaiden 2, its amazing and supposedly supposed to sell the most games for the 360 this spring out of all the other games like alan wake and too human, and lost odyssey hehheeh. sony has games just not good ones heheheh. and considering its a “game” console!! yeah im not buying the PS3. and dude Microsoft has so much potential its not even funny ehhehe. there is no way in hell that sony will win this platform war against the two strongest in the gaming field, microsoft and nintendo. because they know how to reinvent themselves!!! you can read, theres an article that says on gamespot.com that sony should stick to there tvs and cameras, because the two competitors have all of the best games this year and have the biggest line up for next year. ehhehee. and creating your own games. dude you are so fucking stupid. and did you know that microsoft took 2007!!!!! dumbshit!!! 3.4 billion in sales!!! you are so freakin stupid dude. and yes there is a handheld that they are making, there is an article on GT.com that i read like a month ago that microsoft’s president of the gaming industry said to gt.com that they have to make on in order to keep up with nintendo DS and the PSP. and there is a trailer at the like huge games developers conference or whatever its called of like xbox creators saying and showing how they are creating 1000 community xbox live games that will also be compatible with your zune player. and answer me this, do you think that the PS4 will be able to be talked to??? NO!!! and why?? because microsoft is too good for Sony and will be the only one to create that hehheeeh. and what fucking retard would want a damn PS4??? how fucking stupid dude hheheheeh.
and I AM GOING TO END THIS…. I think that the PS3 is good in some ways, but what i am trying to get through your incredibly thick skull, you dumbass, is that Microsoft is putting more efforts into there system and more amazing things. Sony is just now developing there online gaming at a standard level to xbox live. and xbox live has been around for about 9 years now, alright!! so yeah microsoft created what next gen. is!!! and one thing that microsoft and nintendo have in common is that they know how to market there products correctly!!!! Sony came out with bullshit PS3s that were retarded and expensive and they didnt sell because of terrible marketing. and microsoft did a superb job in that area. i think that the pSp and the PS2 were good and i think thats where they will stop. i think that sony will have the beginning of the year, but i think that nintendo and microsoft will come back again for there second round and pound on the PS3 when people are all playing gears of war 2 and fable 2 and wii fit!!! alright!!! sony doesnt know how to create amazing games, and I cant wait to play the xbox 720!!!! oh and what will ps fans look forward to in this so called PS4??? oh yeah “downloadable games” oh sure, except thats already on the xbox 360!!! hehehhee. microsoft will always be steps ahead of sony dude, and blu ray will be another beta issue allover again!!! and yeah i went to best buy today and the PS3 wasnt being played with and there were like 5 people huddled around playing rock band on the 360 hehheehe. oh and nobody is buying stupid ass blu ray hehheeheh all of the dvds are sold out and blu ray is still full of movies, that would mean that nobody has any interest in PS3 heehehee. and when you look at the PS3’s games, yeah there nothing compared to wii’s games and the 360’s games, and considering that they will continually lose game franchises, yeah i dont see sony taking 2008 hehehehehe. the truth is, is that they day the xbox 360 was born, everybody knew that it would be the ultimate game console hehehehehe and if sony is so wonderful then why is the president of the gaming industry quitting after 10 years hmmm??? hehheeh you are so fucking stupid dude. hehehehe quit badgering me with your ten dollar words, the 360 is the future, the ps3 is only for a few months. ehhheheeh.

March 1, 2008 at 10:03 pm
(27) parker says:

dude calm down dont have a hemroid heheheh the PS3 will only be around for a few months but then the 360 and the wii will once again rein as kings and kick the shit out of the ps3 again like it did last year hehehehe. poor sony heeeehe. poor dear sony hehehehe. jealously is not attractive bob heheheheeh. dude dont get so serious. oh and i said that the 360 sold 3.4 billion in hardware sales, meaning everything in total!!!! like games and all of there add on amazing things okay heeheeh. dude go back to 2nd grade to learn how to read, maybe its from playing too many PS games heheheehehe. dude your words are cheap, there like dirt to me. your useless hehehehehe and stupid hehehehe. just calm down, cause i dont want you to have a heart attack hehehehe. I luv my 360 I luv my 360 I luv my 360 I luv my 360 I luv my 360 I luv my 360 I luv my 360 I luv my 360 I luv my 360 I luv my 360 I luv my 360 I luv my 360

:) Bob is such an ugly name, it sounds so old hehehehe

March 2, 2008 at 7:57 am
(28) Bob says:

He guys, sorry about taht mess i created there, smtn went wrong here…sorry about that.

March 3, 2008 at 10:56 am
(29) Bob says:

Sounds old? How would you know if im not a gaming addicted fanboy like you are. Maybe i work at google? Maybe i am actually 48? You would never never know would you? Maybe my kids play video game but i never raelly grew out of them fully? Anyhow nothing more about my personal life.

hardware sales clearly mean sales of the console. You clearly dont read enough news to know that. HOW CAN I BE JEALOUS? Are you retarded? I HAVE A FREAKIN 360 MAN. Microsoft isn’t too good for Sony, and how do you know for certain that PS4 wont have voice recognition? Come on even computers TODAY have voice recognition. Bioshock didn’t come on the PS3 because it was paid not to, its as simple as that. A lot of people are switiching over to Blu Ray , well not Switching but buying blu ray as well. Online gaming for the console was created by Microsoft: There i have no argument, I find that Live is absolutely brilliant. But i dont believe sony is COPYING it. You have to COPY (if u insist on calling it that) some things in its basic form (ONLINE GAMING HERE) but then you turn around an create something new. Home has never before been seen on console. OH AND THERE ARE RUMORS THAT MS IS CREATED ITS OWN HOME SPINOFF, but i dont think thats a bad thing. If it makes live BETTER, that would be like the ultimate thing. Dont include PS4/Xbox 2 or 720, or Wii2 in ur arguments in the future, it really weakens it. Just saying. I dont think the Wii is any fun. My nephew just bought one, and honestly he is the only one i see in my family playing it. Downloadable games are on ps3 too, stop being a jackass seriously its annoying. U certainly are adept with the gaming industry news so i can see that ur arguments are worth noting. The only thing is that you arent objective. I have a 360, i havent turned it on since halo 3 because i havent seen any games worth playing, (I didnt really like Mass Effect, yea kill me about it). Im witing for GOW2, and im sure smtn will come up between then that will make me press th on switch. I dont hate my 360. Im looking at how the PS3 is doing today. You take every argument and almost put it into a wrong argument. Peter Moore left microsoft too didnt he? The playstation 2 was just as slow when it was launched, btw. developers cited the same, “Developmental issues” these guys have only one argument that the common public will understand fully (unless i go into complex code) Wii cant even be part of the argument. As of now Wii is on top, wont stay long that way though. I’, pretty sure that the 360 and the ps3 will beat it. Right now i dont know if the ps3 or 360 will win the console wars. All im saying is that I think ps3 has more of a fighting chance than YOU believe, because of your fanboyism. TRY just try to look at things in a more objective way. I dont really feel like arguing with you anymore because you just say the same things over and over and over and over again. It’s not worth my time. PS3, as of now, has the biggest line up of AMAZING exclusives in 2008. Not counting the Wii because that has almost no 3rd party support. The ps3 has demos installed in the Kiosks, doesnt have a full game, thats y they were playing the 360. And WHOA MAN chill out with the abusing already hahaha. Keep the argument civilized man, the way u were the comment before. I have work to do now, and i doubt ill be returning to this thread because ive just bought another laptop, and i dont want to trasnfer setting etc because i want to start afresh. As a closing comment ill tell you three things:
!) i didnt repeat everything you said. i just showed you how it would be if you objectively looked at the things you mentioned
2) I cant be jealous, you know why.
3)My words are worth more than ten dollars. WAY WAY More. i prefer not to disclose any Financial standing. But ill tell you this much, and you can deduce how much i earn. I do work for a company, I did my undergrad in computer science in carnegie mellon, a masters in computer science in the Berkley and i just finished a master in finance and business management from Wharton. Go ahead an start counting numbers.

Anyway man. You put up a formidable argument, and ive learned some stuff i didnt know. I guess just game on, enjoy your 360 and be more objective. Cya later. In case i do check back for ur last comment, Just curious whats ur favourite game?

March 4, 2008 at 1:29 am
(30) Christina says:

I think all consoles have their audiences and the games for each group of people. Now back to the original issue I think blue tooth capability in the 360 would be a plus. I think a monetary compensation from Microsoft would be a good idea but I don’t think it would happen. But I really like the idea of Microsoft coming out with a consoled that had all the things Jason bought up….

March 5, 2008 at 4:51 pm
(31) gvgjoseph says:

Yes I totally agree, a buy back program needs to be available, but I really doubt that will happen. Now as for the package details stated in your post, I too would love to see them as well! Lets hope Microsoft is thinking along those lines as well.

March 27, 2008 at 4:23 pm
(32) eddie says:

parker…. you are the real dumbass, HEE HEE.

April 21, 2008 at 4:03 pm
(33) 360/ps3owner says:

i thought sony owned blu ray and the ps3 is better anyway 360 doesnt have many good games exept for halo 3 which was crap by the way just my opinion and gears of war which is the second best game ever metal gear solid is the first the 360 is louder and you have to pay for online with the 360 the ps3 is more quite then 360 dont pay for online and the ps3 costs more to make and there is loads of lagging on 360 not so much on ps3 ye theres more games out for 360 but most of um are crap and my 360 is always crashing and 5 months ago my old 360 blew up smoke came from the back which was a bitch i think microsoft are money grabbers and there is proof that the ps3 is better on the internet somewere well thats all i have to say about that

October 21, 2008 at 1:41 am
(34) Vincent Mclaughlin says:

I dind’t really take the time to read all of the comments posted and if I sound like I’m repeating what someone else has said, then I am sorry. Now, to the point! I own a xbox360 and I love it! I love being able to play online and the large xbox live community that most games have. However, if MS is going to introduce blue-ray, it needs to be for this reason and this reason only, larger disk space. I think MS would really benifit from this and not have to worry about how to compress software onto an 8gig dual layer disk verses a 30gig blue-ray disk. Software developers would be free to create games that they really want to put out without worring about space limits. Being able to play blue-ray movies is a just a plus. I do agree with the buy back option, considering MS is only going to refurbish the old systems with blue-ray drives and firmware to support it. Let’s not forget about play back of all the standard 360 games being sold, now. All features and point system intact! So, if anyone from MS is reading this, take notes.

August 5, 2009 at 11:36 am
(35) Anna says:

I think it would be great. Some of us just want one gaming device, and that’s great that many have whichever one they want, I would rather have the XBox. However, I’m not going to spend alot of money on something that is not going to offer me the technology of the future. It needs to have Blue Ray because many of us, like myself, already have an HD DVD in our TV’s. So why would we want something we already have? Please Microsoft, put the Blue Ray in the XBox 360, and I will buy one! Thanks!

September 17, 2009 at 8:13 am
(36) Mumbles says:

parker, you are freaking retarded “HEHEHEHEH.” put that gay phrase in every sentence you put down why dont you? btw, if microsoft made a handheld xbox the sales would do nothing for microsoft. dont go thinking that if they made one they would blow every other competitor out of the water. playstation was the first to do that, they are the leaders in gaming technology and innovators. when you think about it, it is sony that is always a step ahead of microsoft because they put so much more time into their designs. well class is over now, peace parker. youre gay

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